"My work may be garbage but it's good garbage." Mickey Spillane
PC makes me sick to my stomach.
I finally posted a comment at after reading it for a year. And I got jumped for it.
I spent years getting my degree in Anthropology piecemeal. I finally got it in my mid-40s.
One of the things I learned, both through study and through personal experience, is that while you can take people out of a culture, you can’t take the culture out of the people.
PC says that we must deal with all people as individuals.
Let me first say that my views could be suspect. I have had many unpleasant experiences with Islam. Back in the 70s, I worked for a few years as a secretary at the International Srudent Center at North State University, Denton Texas as a secretary. The only students who treated me shabby were moslim males. In 1976 a cousin of mine was killed by terrorists in Iran. In 1978, a bahai meeting I attended was crashed by baseball wielding moslem students. In 1979, when my first short story saw print, my closest friend had several moslem friends, all male. They would congregate at her mother’s home. I was very proud of that story. It came out in Amazons! edited by Jessica Amanda Salmonson. My friend, Kathy, was delighted to see me finally in print. She showed her copy of the book to everyone, including those moslem men who gathered at her mother’s home.
I no longer remember the guy’s name, but he was a short Liberian student. He threw my book in my face and informed me that I “put the woman forward too much.” He then tried to prove he was tougher than I was because he knew I was a long time student of martial arts. I flattened him.
Another time, a pair of African moslims talked about me in front of my face as if I weren’t there, discussing and laughting over my word choices because they were so educated. You would have thought I was a freak on exhibit.
Over the years, I knew many people whose experience with muslim husbands mirrored that of Phyllis Chesler. Her experience was not the exception, it was the rule.
forgive me if my spelling is off. I’ve had a few screwdrivers and too many cigars.
It is possible for a culture to be sick, just as it is for an individual.
You can take a person out of a culture, but you can’t take the culture out of the person. Modern Islamic practice mirrors that of medieval Europe. As recently as two hundred years ago, Cotton Mather tried to bribe a sea captain who was bringing the first quakers to America. He wanted the captain to either sell the Quakers into slavery or drown them all at sea. Why? Because they were heretics.
HIs motivation was religious. The witch trials were religiously motivated and supported by the community of good, god-fearing people.
Religion often is the single most influential part of a culture. It is comprised of several components. One of them is social tradition, such as dietary laws and laws that govern the behavior of the sexes. There is no religion currently in existence that has not, at one time or another, been guilty of the monstrousness we see in current Islamic thought. That includes the bahais. The Bahai faith believes that men are inherently more just than women.
You cannot judge a culture by the exceptions to the rule. You could not judge medieval Catholicism by Savranola and Martin Luther’s enlightened examples. Martin Luther broke with the Catholic Church over their excesses. HOwever, had he not found a patron in Emperor Henry, he would have been burned at the stake as Savranola was.
It took the Western world centuries to overcome its religiously dominated persecution of women. If exceptions to the rule had not fought for change, culminating in an englightened Britian and America, women would still be going around wearing a “scold’s bridle.”
Now, let’s complete the comparison. There is no difference between the edicts of the Catholic church that sent millions of protestants to the stake and the fatwahs that are issued by Islamic leaders calling for the death of various individuals.
The massacre of the French Hugonots and the current attitude of the Islamic clergy toward people who profess differing attitudes or dare to question are the same. what lies at the root of it is religion. If we had not dared to question the justice involved in the massacre of the Hugonots, it would have continued to this day.
By the same virtue, if we do not question the transgressions of traditional Islamic society, it will continue.
Take a look at history and the patterns of religiously motivated behavior. Then tell meif I’m wrong.